One last little note before I head off on vacation. Oh, who am I kidding? I'll probably post something here tomorrow before the ship actually takes off. I'll probably have 1-2 Offside updates today/tomorrow as well. Lots of writing time on the plane!
I know many are not happy with the direction Unexpected Circumstances is taking. I finally read some of the last chapter reviews - hehe. Yeah, I'm a little behind in that department. The Twilighted Thread has exploded as well. I get it - I do. You're invested in the characters and you don't want anything bad to happen. I also understand if this is too much or hits a personal button - no hard feelings on anyone who feels they can't go on or has decided to wait until it's done. I don't blame ya. :) I am thrilled people love these two so much that their heartache is your own. That really means a lot to me!
I have a little less than two hours to finish getting ready, drag my kids out of bed and head to the airport! I'll still be on Twitter and whatever until tomorrow afternoon, so it isn't complete internet bye-bye just yet!
Love ya all!
Hey bb, you know I didn't mean it in my last Offside Review about tying you to a chair and drip-feeding you while you churn out more chapters of ... well, anything, doncha?! LOL. Just wanted to say have an absolutely spiffing holiday. Gonna get stuck into the latest chapter of UC now ... can't wait. Me? I feckin' LOVE the angst, so bring it on!
ReplyDelete:) in the day and age Angel woold be class as a Surrogate Mother ok we have it done in a dish but he no sleep with her yer dont think he will be able to, + i think rose going come a beat the f out of jane and i thin that it Tanya that set this up
ReplyDeleteI'm in the "I think I'm gonna wait till a few more chapters of UC are posted"-camp. I don’t think I can take the angst-levels based on your post here! I love your characters and how they and their relationship has evolved…the heartfail just “hurts”, ‘ya know?
ReplyDeleteI made the mistake of reading 'Emancipation Proclamation' as Khar was writing/posting it when it got into the heavy, “def-con angst levels” . I'm "embarrassed" to say that as it delved into the DEEP ANGST/separation chapters, I just couldn't take it: and I have not finished it YET! It's on my list of stuff to do when I'm camping out over-night for the Breaking Dawn Panel or in the long lines at Comic-Con later this month!
Have a great trip! Enjoy the cruise, your family, the relaxation and fun of it all!
oh my. i haven't read the past few chapters of UC b/c i've been finishing up my PhD and now i am getting very nervous. i like the angst and long as we have a HEA. i really am nervous to start where i left off b/c if even you are noticing people feeling too much heart fail then i know i should be afraid. but then again i'm tooo freaking excited to see what happens, i have faith in you so don't let me down.
ReplyDeleteok just finished getting caught up. wow savage i have no words. (well actually i do and i left them on your FF review board). wow just wow. i'm keeping the faith, i hope you make it right:)
ReplyDeletePlease, just please, please fix the UC fuckery. You still can make it. Please no matter how much you think Bella is strong and noble, this will destroy her, and just to be realistic will affect her relationship with Edward. Please reconsider, what they found together is unique. It doesnt matter it is angela or another, when reality hits Bella, she wont be the same. Its too hard on her, she cant just wait for Edward to finish "performing his duty" and come back and make love to her. Please, I know this happened back then, but this is a fic story, if we want medieval reality there are lots of movies and books based on true stories. But to be realistic, even then the wives and concubines hated eachother. Bella made the ultimate sacrifice by not only allowing, but encouraging the love of her life to lie wit another, cant Edward do the same, cant he sacrifice anything for her? Please do not let bella suffer more, she doesnt deserve this. It is not a 1 night stand, it is straight 6 months of laying with another woman maybe more than once per day/night. How will Bella cope with it when Edward turns all his efforts on getting angela pregnant. no mater how strong bella is, this will destroy her and their marriage in the long term. Please, this is a beautiful story, i dont mind angst, you can throw whatever, but please dont make edward do this. Please.....
ReplyDeleteI know this is your story and you CAN write it the way you choose to. Real life sucks sometimes and I think that is why we read our stories to escape real life. Maybe if the characters were Elisabeth and Henry I would not mind so much the direction you SEEM to be going in. But you are writing a fic after our beloved Bella and Edward. I expect certain things in a story that has Edward and Bella in it. I belong to a very large online group of ladies. We read and share. For those of us reading, very few will continue to read until close to the end of this story to see where this story has led us. And many who were going to start will not due to our moaning and crying over the last chapter...lol.
ReplyDeleteThis is just to show you how a lot of us feel.
Oh, by the way this group of girls LOVE your OffSides story. We will miss our daily fix while you are gone.
Have a great vaca!
This is a repost from the reviews. Im partially reposting it because its long and truer words were never spoken about this. Hope the original poster would forgive me for posting without permission, but since it was already public why not posting it here too. Maybe you will read it:
ReplyDelete"How could you leave the story in such of a precarious turning point? While the thought of Edward committing adultery is almost more than I can bear, I will learn to live with it. However, what I am angry with is Bella’s attitude. Please spare me the selfless Bella bullshit, because there is selflessness and then there is stupidity and willingly allowing oneself to be disrespected and placed second to a Crown! She encouraged him to do it…WTF was that? What sane woman is going to be okay with her husband bedding another woman in order to secure his position as King? I read your author’s note at the end and seriously wanted to throw something at my PC screen! How can she not view this as a betrayal? He promised her love, fidelity, and honor. Where is any of that in his actions? How can he possibly allow himself to be used in order to destroy the woman he claims to adore? His love for her should be stronger than any loyalty to a kingdom. I’m not angry at the act; it’s the reactions that are killing me. And yes, Edward did have a choice in the matter. He could have chosen his wife over his duties as a King.
You wrote Edward and Bella’s love for one another so beautifully, that you left me in awe. They are very special to my heart. I’m not going to lie to you here…this path will destroy a great deal of that love. It will add a taint rooted so deeply, that no amount of beautiful writing will ever be able to repair. Herein lies my dilemma. As I mentioned above, I don’t agree with the way you wrote Bella in this fiasco. Please, tell me that this was just the calm before the storm…she might believe herself to be capable of accepting and living with this, but is that really possible? How can her heart keep from breaking over it? Where I Bella, I would flinch every time he touched me after this. I wouldn’t be able to stop myself from visualizing him with her. I would find it very hard to be with him intimately, and no matter how selfless Bella is purported to being, at the end of the day she is only a woman….she isn’t a saint. Please don’t write her as such. This development is going to shatter everything they have build with one another. They’ll never be able to get back what they will have lost…the innocence, and faith is forever destroyed, but will they have any foundation left to rebuild on? This scenario where Bella is super understanding and accepting is unrealistic. No matter how much she fights it, insecurity is going to set in….she’s going to start to wonder if Angela is better in bed than she is, and how can that not place a huge wall in between the two of them?
I hope you make Bella pregnant. Even if she is, there will forever be a taint added unto the pregnancy. Edward and Carlisle are humiliating her before the entire country and for what? Is it really worth it? This is a great big clusterfuck. I don’t know how you’ll be able to write your way out of this one. I tell you no lie….where I in that situation; I would lock myself away somewhere unable to function. However, when I regain my strength and had a little bit of time to think, I would leave it all behind and start anew somewhere else. No kingdom is worth my dignity and peace of mind. I also don’t think that Edward should have a child with any other woman except for Bella. Now, that would be a deal breaker for me. I know the child is innocent, bla, bla, bla and I’m a witch for saying so, but no way would I be able to accept my husband’s bastard child and raise it as my own. I just wouldn’t be able to do it. As for Carlisle, I really hope that he’ll die soon as Edward has implied. I hate him for being partly responsible for Bella’s heartbreak."
I will have to say after reading the latest chapter, you have tried to smooth things over very nicely. Bella's ok she's taking one for the team. But I am saddened because whatever the time, whatever the case, Edward and Bella have a real marriage,and real love, and some how some way that needs to stay sound, no adultery.(no matter the royal cause) It ruins it. I really feel for Bella here, she is being played the fool by so many, and that shouldn't be. You can put whatever kind of name on it, (like nobility and heart of a royal, but let Carlisle sleep with another and see how noble Esme is). Why should Aro, Jessica, Jane, Tanya,Carlisle, Esme, or even Edward for that matter win out with what they want how are their lives any more important than Bella's. Sure she is a servant girl, but she is still a human being, a human being worth not being humiliated and taken advantage of, especially by any of them. I hope you have some clever turn about here or I am going to be eternally sad. :'( My heart still hurts. On a lighter note, have a nice, relaxing vacation. Can't wait to see what the vaca state of mind will bring back to all of us in your stories.
ReplyDeleteHi!! hope you have a great vacation!! im so very loving your two current stories... i not often write to you but just know that i think you are an amazing writer... i really hoping you could some how be able to update before the 10 because im addicted to you stories almost as much as rob, thats right.. almost that much... so i just wanted to tell you that i love that in off side they are finally dating for real and in UC i was skeptical with the angela situation but yeah.. i thing of the times I guess...not completely ok with that though... and by now i think that what i was suspecting about jane doing something to avoid bella´s getting pregnant is true.. because the tea thing is sounding pretty loud now... well hope everything turns out to be a great time away from home for you... best wishes...
ReplyDeletePD: i know i need a beta for my writing... spanish native speaking here...
Angela drank the tea, just like I commented earlier. I really hope all of this gets blamed on Aro and Jane sometime soon. Some justice for Bella has to come shortly. She has had nothing but heartbreak.
ReplyDeleteDear Savage:
ReplyDeleteYour fabulous story, UNEXPECTED CIRCUMSTANCES, has the potential to inspire excitement and hope
in your readers that true wedded love is really possible in this cruel world. Bella did remember, in Chapter 25, that Princess Jessica continually criticized her as Edward's wife, saying she was not fit to be the spouse of a future king. Perhaps this is ONE cause of her TEMPORARY INFERTILITY? Maybe the current angst in the story will cause Edward to totally reject Angela and return to Bella, reassuring her in a new way of his true love and devotion, thus improving their marital intimacy, and allowing Bella to get pregnant.
I'm just saying.
Savage,
ReplyDeleteWhat were you thinking when you wrote that Bella wanted to help Esme setting up the room for Angela and Edward to fornicate? Now I like you want to portray Bella as strong and more generous and selfless than Mother Theresa, but please dont make he look retarded too. Thanks!
Edward will develop feelings for Angela. The readers will see. As I mentioned in a review of ch. 25, this author leaves Isabella alone in her marital bed hysterical crying while her husband goes off to have relations with another woman. The author didn't even write in another character staying with Isabella when this horrific turn of events took place. Now, we have been hearing about how, in this period, the characters don't consider it cheating, and the author never promised sunshine and rainbows. Savage tries really hard to convince us that Edward's love is only for Isabella. We get it, relax savage. However, human beings were still human beings in the middle ages. They weren't machines. The after effects of Edward's and Angela's relations will remain. Isabella will be destroyed as an "unexpected circumstance". Edward will be gentle since she is a virgin and his mother was raped. The tea will make it necessary for Edward to have sex with Angela for the next 6 months. Over time, they will get comfortable with eachother and more feelings will develop. Savage purposely spends 23 chapters building the love between Edward and bella, then Edward says his heart and soul belong to Isabella. She does this on purpose so the "unexpected circumstance" will be Edward and Angela developing a bond with eachother. If every reader stops reading this story Savage will still take the story in this direction. She made it clear that it was outlined last year and she will not change it. Do I want this to happen? Of course not! This story has tainted every other E/B angst ff out there for me. Now when I read another story I think about this one and it makes me sick. So as I said after ch. 24, I will give it 2 more chapters. I just feel that Savage WOULD make this very cruel turn of events. Look what she has done so far. She is a good writer and I love her other stories, but Romeo and Juliet was a tragedy, Hamlet was a tragedy. UC should have been a tragedy if Savage does have Edward have relations with Angela. If he does, then Savage didn't give her readers a fair warning at all and this isn't right. If I am wrong and he doesn't have relations with Angela, and if instead he develops into a true king and develops contingency plans, then I am sorry. Furthormore, Edward is not fit to be king at this point. A competent leader would have 100 contingency plans in place, months in advance. His uncle was an unfit leader as well, only leaving one nephew as an heir. Also, I remember in ch. 2 how the vow of being faithful was emphasized. He will break that vow in body if he sleeps with Angela. so much for his belief in his God. to sum up, I believe that the all is not lost that savage writes about is that the birth control tea will get discovered and Aro, Jessica, and Jane will get their comeuppence, but at what price? Last,the only other way I see her ending this (most unlikely) is that in the end Savage reveals that Edward never slept with angela and the reader was just led to believe it the whole time. Knowing how Savage is writing this story I doupt she would give the readers this. Sorry!
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ReplyDeleteNot only I totally agree with you, but I think it would be ridiculous and so unrealistic for Savage to have Edward having sex (yes having sex like in orgasming and enjoying it) with Angela again and again and again and not getting comfortable doing that? Edward will fuck Angela like there is no tomorrow now that she is drinking the tea too. He wont touch Bella anymore (and honestly i dont know how Bella wont flinch at his touch), his dick would fall off if he took 2 women so much every day and night. Of course he will make Angela comfy too, he cant take her unless she is ready for that, meaning Edward will get it up for her by being aroused and Angela will get wet by him arousing her too. Are you going to convince us that Edward will be going at it by putting a pillow above angelas face and making a hole in her underware? Or maybe Bella will show so much "strength" again that she will take it as a team project and have a threesome helping her husband get it up for few times untill he gets comfy with Angela. I totally agree Edward is no way ready to be a king. He has known about this for months and he didnt know what to do about it? And yes, why didnt Carlise take a concubine too and secure more than 1 hair? No, because he didnt want to hurt Esme, thats what he told Bella. Savage, I would say, since you went for this, you just might go through with it to the end, but please be realistic and dont sugarcoat it, no undying love between Edward and Bella, because thats not true anymore. I would vomit if I read lines like: "No matter what they forced on us, we would belong together forver" or "he would be always mine, even if he touched another"...huh, sure sure, because you know, that is not true..NOT a little bit. Maybe you wanted to go to a place no other ff writer had gone before, I dont know, but im sure you are enjoying this too much, and obviously you dont care for your readers. No, its not nice to ask your readers to stop reading after they read more than half of this story. If you dont care about what we think or ask, then dont publish your stories in the internet, I say us like in 90% of readers in his case not 10%. No offence taken, nothing personal, just you took this too far.
i must agree with everyone. i'm appalled and disappointed in this story from savage. she is such a talented writer, but i, too, think she's getting way too much enjoyment from all of the hype and controversy that this story has generated, despite one of her last few comments in her blog here, that's she's not doing it for the reviews. maybe not the reviews, but most definitely for the control she seems to have over everyones minds and hearts. how could she not? her name is on the tip of every tongue.
ReplyDeleteas talented of a writer that she is, there is no way to properly write herself out of the corner that i think she's in right now. she's made both of her main characters look like idiots, fools and doormats. a future king with no plan...a queen in waiting that has a "welcome" sign stamped on her forehead. a hypocrital king on the throne?? the only ones who actually look like they have some brain power right now are the evil leader of the other kingdom and his little minion jane.
the only possible save for this is if edward comes back to bella and says he couldn't do it, consequences be damned. for them to leave for an unspecified period of time and then return to the castle with a pregnant bella.
i want to kick my own ass. i just can't believe that i've gotten myself so invested in a story. to come this far and to continue to hang in there, despite my dislike for the characters. to the point where they finally, finally become likeable. to the point where even i had fallen in love with this edward. i feel like it's all be a waste of time.
i've already taken this story off of alert and i'm still living and breathing. i just had to get this off my chest one last time. maybe i'll return later, maybe i won't...i won't be missed and you know what? i couldn't care less.
Savage you have a background in psychology and you have studied human behavior. So I have a feeling that you knew exactly what you were doing when you created in this story, a beautiful, unconditional pure love between these 2 characters. For over 6 months, for 23 chapters, you enabled us to become very attached to these 2 main characters. It is as if Isabella is someone we know personally. You went into great detail describing how Edward was so caring with Isabella when they had sex since his mom was raped. After you ensured that we were really emotionally attached to this couple, after you really got these ideas inside our heads, you then create a situation where Edward and Angela will have sex for 6 straight months as we know she won't conceive. Like Isabella, Angela is not a princess who pursued him. She is also a virgin. Knowing human behavior as you do, you knew how many would then picture Edward doing the same to Angela as he did to Bella. You knew that once you had us hooked on this story, readers just couldn't stop reading. You can say you warned us, that this is angst, that the infertility is in the story description. I knew all this before I began reading this story and I bet alot of readers did. But somehow, unless the whole sleeping with Angela part of the story is resolved in the next chapter, I still feel that we were not properly warned. The actual story would be far more severe than some angst warning. I have read tons of angst, where E/B have suffered, but in every other story, the sacred bond of intimacy in their relatinship is never shattered. And if it is, then the character is described as a jerk, not the same as how you described your Edward.
ReplyDeletesavage,
ReplyDeleteyou wrote in your "sensationalism" comment that you don't write nice. i think we all get that, and have dealt with it, loved it or hated it but willingly suffered through it. yes, we obviously follow you from story to story. having said that though, none of your other non "nice" stories consisted of or made a threat to the "fideity" of edward and bella's relationship. i know you said that you weren't going to change your outline or story and since none of us are mind readers, we can't even really ask that you do that sine we don't know what you have planned. i just ask that you don't seriously underestimate your readers. i will be deliriously happy if i've underestimated you.
you also commented that you write for our enjoyment and entertainment, as well as your own. but i have to say that i think this time around you're probably the only one who is finding this enjoyable and entertaining.
You may not be willing to compromise any of your story for your current readers, understandbly so, but the least you could do for any new readers is take "Romance" out of your story description and just leave the "Angst". A more appropriate description would be Angst/Angst/Angst. I haven't seen any real sign of "Romance" and at this rate I'm doubtful of it's appearance.
ReplyDeleteWow, I must say the amount of drama this has created is impressive. I just wanted to say savage that I hope you take this negativity all w/ a grain of salt, as you have said before its a testament to your amazing skills that people are so up in arms over this new possible plot development. Be true to your writing, be proud of your unique story lines and remember there are so many of us that love your work and support your writing! that being said please let us have faith that you will make it all right in the end, he he he!! :)
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad I got on here today and read these comments. I have been so afraid that I was the only one that thought that Savage has taken advantage of us all with this turn of events. I do think she absolutely LOVES what she's doing. Telling us she warned us there would be angst in no way excuses where she is currently heading with this story. If she continues with this and has Edward CHEAT (and that's what it is) on Bella she will lose so many readers. Why the hell would we read and E/B story that had one of the them having sex with someone else??? All these chapters of falling in love with these two characters will just be ruined. I wanted to just be sick after reading the last chapter and how "noble" Bella was being. Savage wants us to believe that's being strong? I think she has a very warped idea of what strong is. I'm sure she's loving all these reviews and attention and will ignore every single person that will have their heart broken when she does what I'm sure she's going to do. She's probably laughing her ass off at all of us for caring so much.
ReplyDeleteI think Savage is a great writer and I really love all her stories. Maybe she didn't realize the extreme emotions that readers would have to Edward and Angela having sex, even though husbands take on 2nd wives and him needing an heir. In her description she does infer that Isabella will not be able to give Edward an heir, but she underestimated the reader's revulsion to where she is heading. Maybe she should change the warning from angst to something far worse. Anyway, by the time we found out we were too far into the story so I think that part is horrible for me. I hope she realizes and then enables the reader to know that Edward doesn't go through with it or I feel most people
ReplyDeleteSavage,
ReplyDeleteI think a comparison might be in order for you to understand why all of your readers are so upset and devastated by what you're doing.
Imagine a small child. Every day for 24 days you give this child a sweet and delicious ice cream cone. The child loves the treat and begins to look forward to having it every day. Then on let's say the 25th day before you hand the child the ice cream you slap them across the face. Then you tell the child that if they want the cone they're going to have to take the slap to the face first. If they don't want the slap, they can just stop eating the sweet and delicious treat. It's not your fault at all if the child refuses the treat or is upset when they receive the slap.
Do you understand? I can't imagine someone being so cruel to so many people who have loved and supported you. I understand you write for your enjoyment, but I guarantee you're the only one enjoying it at this point.
Savage -
ReplyDeleteYou have a degree in psychology right? You've spent years studying abnormal brain function and the behavior of victims? Certainly you're not attempting to study the abnormal brain function of one of your fictional characters or the behavior of one of the story's victims, such as Edward or Bella? Because that would make you crazy... Assuming I'm right, then that must mean that you are attempting to study your readers? I have to say that I'm not sure how I feel about being one of your guinea pigs. Surely that is how I and perhaps a lot of other readers feel at this moment. Perhaps it would be better if you actually waited to do your testing on actual patients. What are your conditions? Are there variables that you are using? Do you have a control group in order to cull out the variables? Did you get release statements from your readers to test them? Usually when I've participated in a group research, I've been paid. Should we complain to the APA or the ADA or NCAA or perhpas the NAACP or maybe the FHA or the VA. Oh I know, since your experiement really could be considered inhumane, maybe we'll call the PETA or the SPCA organizations. Oh I've got it, the NWA, no, no, no...the NRA, yeah, because they have about as much of an idea about what your readers want as you do. Do not say you write for your readers. You would not be writing this if that was the case.
Look, the truth is and I speak for myself, but I'm sure many would silently agree...we're a messed up bunch of people. Do you really need a study for that? We're reading FanFic for Christ sake. Because we're all in love with a fictional character. I can't even remember the last phenomenon of this fucked up proportion. My 16 year old daughter even without her HS diploma yet could tell you we're messed up. Do you really need further evidence?
I could not agree more with your post. We're all messed up, but I do not remember signing a waiver to get mindfucked by this story. If I had any idea this was were she would take it, I would have saved myself the heart fail and not even started it. I bet there are MANY out there who would have done the same. Thank you for your post and making me smile. Glad there is something on here that did. Being told if you don't like it then you can stop reading, did not make me feel very nice or appreciated to tell you the truth. It actually reminded me a lot of SM punishing her fans when Midnight Sun was leaked. Diva like behavior is not very becoming.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'm going to go in a completely different direction than the majority of these posts, and say: Savage, keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteTo everyone that is saying that they can't believe Edward and Bella are putting the kingdom before their marriage: WAKE UP PEOPLE! This is a historical piece, not a modern day one! Edward is the future king! He has responsibilities to his people! Part of ruling is being selfless and putting others before yourself. He can't just "put Bella before the crown;" we all know that if he and her were to run away like he had suggested, Forks would go to hell, especially with the vulnerable position it's in right now with Aro. And another thing, you're all acting as if Esme, Carlisle, and Edward are all happy, go lucky for this decision; none of them are! You really need to consider the other options Edward would have had to choose from had he not taken Angela on, or did you miss the part where Edward implied that he would have had to annul his marriage had he refused?
As for the cheating, c'mon people there are TONS of E/B stories where Edward goes off and has casual sex with someone after having a fight with Bella. Yeah, the two might now be married, but c'mon. At least Knightward is completely against the act instead of going after it with guns a blazing.
And as for people that think Savage is trying to mess with us in a psychological way, AGAIN, c'mon, seriously? Did you even know she had a degree in this subject area before she mentioned it in one of her other posts? Would you have even considered this possibility had she not mentioned she specialized in psychology.
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ReplyDeletei get the point you're trying to make and in my review on the story site i mentioned the same thing. this is a historical story. this is what they would have done during those times. i'm not dogging savage for writing a story that historically correct. i think the argument here is that as true e/b shippers this isn't what we enjoy in a story. yes, we know savage writes angst, but her other stories have never gone this far as to threaten the relationship between edward and bella in this way.
and i did not know that savage held a degree in psychology until i read that statement in her blog, but after reading this story, i realized that the information did not surprise me. i'd also venture to say that she has a bit of a masochistic streak in her as well. she knew the pain that she would inflict on all of us when she took the steps she did in writing this story. and again, there's nothing wrong in that. one would say that you must be an extremely talented writer to evoke the type of emotions that she's gotten from her readers, but i really don't think it takes that much talent to break our hearts. as you said, there are plenty of other stories out there where edward has sex with other women for whatever reason and i'd be willing to bet that those stories don't hold a candle where talent is concerned to those that savage has written...but i'll bet you that hearts were broken all the same.
the only thing that any of can really do is just sit back and see what happens. then we either curse and cry some more or laugh hysterically at our collective silly asses.
Edward might have had casual sex in other ff stories after a fight with Bella, but that always have happened before they got serious or fully committed. I wouldnt mind if Edward brought a concubine before professing his undying love for Bella because no feelings would be hurt. They both would now where they stood with each other in that case. The key word here is "casual", not the same thing as doing Angela for 6 months straight probably day and night, several times. Are you kidding me? It will come to a point that Edward wont have any stamina left for his real wife, and angela will become his wife in bed, where it matters the most. If savage would write it differently, that would be a big lie. The intimacy between E/B would be ruined forever. As for a period piece, well first, Kings an princes didn marry for this epic love, they did it mostly for power and successon. we were led to this unique, powerful love between E/B, that to the point no kingdom or Aro would rival it. Savage wrote a modern type of epic love story, but when it comes to fuck up with our minds...oooppps but it happened 500 years ago, goes with the time and territory...lol...yeah
ReplyDeleteAll i will say in this matter is that if Edward goes through with it, Bella would be destroyed regardles of the brave face she puts on for the sake of Kingdom, it will get to her. And the saddest part is that a lifetime wont be enough for Edward to appologise to her.
ReplyDeleteHere's the thing though that seems to be a reoccurring theme in the replies to this post: Everyone is painting Edward as a villain; they may not be meaning to, but they are by saying such things as, "How could he do this to Bella?" or "How is he keeping his vow of faithfulness through this act?" or as the above poster just said, "He'll never be able to apologize to Bella." Now here's what MOST people seem to be not mentioning in their explanations: what all would you rather he had done instead of taking Angela as a concubine? He explains to Bella in the chapter that he's NOT left with OTHER choices. Would you have rather have seen him annul his marriage to her? Edward is literally backed into a corner in this situation. Yes, Savage could have taken this into the epic love direction and had him give up the throne for Bella, but I rather like the RL direction that she's going in, and yes, before you say it, I get it, this is a work of FICTION, but there still are certain elements in this story that adhere to rules of the time period in which the story takes place. However, back to Edward being backed into a corner; very few people, if any, seem to be taking this circumstance into account which you have to do in order to see how E&B's feelings towards one another are understandable at the end of the chapter. Edward does not want to do this, and Bella understands this which is why she's able to be strong as she is. Now, I'm not saying that she'd be able to keep this strength forever, but as of right now where the story is, I think it's reasonable. As for him constantly doing Angela and not having the stamina for Bella, is this going to be a problem? I honestly can't remember if he said whether or not he would by lying with Angela every night or not, so I can't say anything on that topic. But as for this arrangement continuing for 6 months, I doubt Savage would be that cruel. Plus, something's gotta give in the plot; having the same angst of Bella being heartbroken over the arrangement in each update would be rather boring to read. I see something preventing it from prevailing within 2 or 3 more updates; however, I don't think that much time is going to pass within the story. Also, I think Savage said in one of her recent posts something along the lines of "all is not lost" for the characters, so I don't think this heartache is going to last that long into the story's actual timeline.
ReplyDeleteWhat I don't understand is why everyone who is "disappointed" in Savage is writing as "Anonymous." Woman/man up and let us know who you are...
ReplyDeleteAnyway! Savage I just want you to know that I'm in love with your stories! So please keep up the good work and don't be discouraged by these reviews! And I hope you have a great vacation!!
I honestly think that everyone should just calm down.. Just because Edward left to go to the room with Angela doesn't meant that he's going to have sex with her. Give Savage some credit! Edward even cried over this so we all know he wasn't happy about it. And even if he does go through with it I'd vote for Angela over Jessica anyday! And people have sex all the time with no feelings involved...But yeah..
So as quoted from Savage herself: "Deeply flawed characters are far more interesting to me as subject material for writing. In the end, they tend to have grown up a bit, and those readers who stuck it out ended up at least having an understanding of why they were they way they were."
So lets back off, chill out, and let's see where this thing goes! And if you're too upset about this then just stop reading because seriously there are millions of Twilight fan fiction out there to read!
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Beffers
Oh, don't you just love the ass kissers?!! lol
ReplyDeleteyou see, that's just the point beffers...i can't speak for everyone, but i'm not necessarily upset or losing it over what edward is doing here...edward is a fictional character afterall. i'm upset with the direction that savage has taken her story, even if she has written edward as being tormented.
ReplyDeleteregardless of the type of character(s) savage enjoys writing, she had to have been fully cognizant of what the fall out would be when she wrote what she did. all historical correctness aside, she knew the amount of pain it would cause us.
i am also a huge fan of her work, all of it, at least until now. this one not so much to be honest and my dislike of the story didn't just occur within the last couple of chapters. but, i made a decision to stick with it in hopes of it becoming a story that i did enjoy. ironically i did get to the point where i was liking it. unfortunately, i'm now back to square one, except enjoying it even less than before. so with at least another 15 chapters until the end and god only knows how much angst that will involve, i made a pretty simple decision. i'm going to step away from it...for now, maybe i'll pick it up a little later after i've had time to gird my loins - lol! reading should not feel like a chore. i don't want to go into another chapter filled with trepidation. so, just as savage gets to choose to write what she likes, we too, get to choose to read what we like.
and i hope i'm not considered among the ass kissers either for my opinion above. don't misunderstand, i'm thoroughly disgusted and heartbroken over the turn of events or the "unexpected circumstances", if you will, that savage has given us in this story. i've read all of the comments here, the good, the bad and the ugly! my opinion is on the fence. is savage really enjoying our pain or is she sitting back laughing her ass off because she knows our worry is all for naught?
i, too, commented earlier in this section annonymously because for some reason it would not allow me to sign in on my google account. just like it would not allow me to do so again today. but i guess at the time i was thinking of things other than signing my name. so i'll do that now...
edaddict3254
Well, sure we like a Real story over an epic love story to read. Ok, but there is a problem. For 23 chapters Savage built this EPIC love story, the uniqe love story never seen or heared in the entire kindom of forks and elsewhere. A love story which could not rival any Kindom, powere or wealth on earth. And because Edward says he was left with no other choices, does that mean is true? its been 2 years since since he got back from war, he knew it would come to this eventually, what did he do besides praying to God to get bella pregnant? And he knew about the concubine months and months ago. Will Bella take it like a champ when the man she loves comes back from screwing the other woman and tell Edward how proud she is that he is putting all his efforts in creating his heir? Hell no, if this is how its gonna be, then im out, not because of angst/heartbreak, but because of stupidity. As for the analogy..people have sex without love all the time...well hon Id love to see your face when the man you loove tells you...look..im screwing those chicks aside, but you have nothing to worry bcause it is just sex....lol, that was the most stupis analogy on earth. Edward might not be the villan here, not intentionally, but he has to pay for his actions. He married bella out of revenge, not love at first, he wanted revenge, he got it, now HE has to pay not Bella. As for Angela, well actually she will be like his real wife in bed now, she will get laid as much as Bela was getting laid before when she wnted to get pregnant. Edward has a limited period of time to get her pregnant, so yeah he will probably sleep with her...a lot. and honestly, I prefer Bella steps down for awhile and stop being a ghost wife just to show off in court and profess her devotion to the Kingdom. she doesnt have to endure the heartbreak of knowing her husband will fuck and pour his seed until helast rop is left to get another woman pregnant, even it is angela....I would say, it is worse being Angela. I would prefer a faceless, random woman, that Bella wouldnt even know who she was. As for Edward, it is not a torture to sleep with Angela, believe me. First time would be not easy, but he likes her and will be gentle with her, eventually will care for her in bed, add the time factor, which wont be just 1 day or week (Angela is drinking the tea too). Id rather he was forced to sleep with somebody he hated than Angela, who eventually and logically he shoud form an attachement and if she gives him a child more so.
ReplyDeleteAlicia (i dont have a google acc and im too lazy to sigh up)
OMG. While I understand why Edward is doing it and why Bella is making such an unbearble sacrifice, the only thing that makes me vomit is him having to sleep with both of them in the same time. While one is out of love, the other is out of duty it is still sex, disgusting and disrespecting toward Bella. He can at least save Bella from futher humiliation and dignity. If Edward wants to have a heir at all cost and you will make him lie with Angela, then he should concentrate on Angela and let Bella be for a while. It will be for the best, otherwise it will destroy her. Keeping the charade during the day and crying her soul during the night will destroy her, their marriage and everything they worked so hard to build, their love. Please dont tell me this will make them stronger, because in reality it is impossible. There is no happiness to be found in this situation, no matter how you spin it. Before being heroes, they are humans not robots.
ReplyDeleteyes, i can see it now...
ReplyDeleteedward returns to his and bella's living quarters after having been with angela. he's tired and needs a hot bath. bella says, why of course sweetheart, let me wash the juices of your concubine - my best friend - off of your beautiful manhood...by the way, would you like a shave while i'm at it?
how does one approach his wife for sex again after he's just been with another woman?
veeerrrryyyyy carefully!
ba-dump-bump...!
i agree with many that bella should not have to endure the back and forth with edward and angela. she should be allowed to go live in some nice, peaceful cottage in a neighboring village. let edward come to terms with and deal with the consequences of his actions.
I couldn't have said it better myself! Let Edward deal with the consequences of his actions.
ReplyDelete@ anon above
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with your decription as how it would go the first night Edward screws Angela, but I have a more detailed vision:
Obviously Edward is too sad and heartbroken for what he is about to do, and what he is doing do to his wife, his love, his life, so he cant get it up. He askes angela to stoke him so he can get some friction and get aroused. In th mean time angela is a virgin, too tight and dry to penetrtate, so Edward will return the favour by stroking her down there untill she losens up and gets wet. Then they are both aroused, Edward starts pushing but cant go too far because Angela is to tight. Edward the gentleman is too gentle with her, pushes slowly until he penetrates to the hilt and asks angela if she is ok. After, he starts thrusting in and out but cant resist too long since she is too tight. He spills every drop of his seed with a loud groan. Then he pulls out, covered in his seed, Angela's juices and her virgin blood. They clean up and Edward thanks Angela for the service to the Kingdom, but he is too coward to get back to his generous, selfless, naive wife, so he falls asleep. He wakes up sometime later and is aroused of dreaming having sex with somebody, whos face looks sometimes like Anglea's, sometimes like Bella's. Anyway, he is hard and he asks Angela if she is too sore to have another round, to make sure she gets pregnanat soon. She says sure (actually she liked his cock the first time, he is a fine handsome man afterall). They do it again, Edward goes longer this time and after he pours inside her again falls exhausted on top of her and sleeps like dead. He wakes up sometime later when the sun is high in the sky. Now he has to get to his wife, have her bath him and shave him. Damn, he doesnt have the energy to take her to bed too. The night has been to intense, he has to talk to Carlise and the court about his first night and make sure they are ok with it. Suddenly is dark outside again, soon he has to go to angela who is waiting with anticipation, first time was fine, second was better, third will be even better...well afterall everything is for the benefit of the Kindom. Poor poor Edward what a sacriface he is making......Viva la Forks....
wow! yeah, that almost works doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteyou know..."forks" can be taken several different ways here...think about it...
1) bella will take the high road, edward will take the low road.
2) when you come to a fork in the road, which way do you go?
3) when a woman spreads her legs, what does it look like?
4) forks can be used as weapons.
5) you can use forks for the appetizer, the entree and the dessert...a multipurpose tool.
6) you can live in forks, where the kingdom is being ruled by "TEA".
FUCKING HELL.
oh I forgot to elaborate when Edward returns to Bella after making Angela wet, deflouring her and thrusting into her tight little pussy. He cant bring himself to look his wife into her eyes. But Bella cant stay there and see her husband nearly destroyed for enduring the torture to bring hismelf to orgasm and spill inside her best friends pussy for the benefit of the Kindom. As the future Queen of Forks would do her duty, she wraps her arms around Edward's head and tells him how proud she is that he might actually have conceived the future heir of Forks. Now she is certain that whatever happened in the room on the other side of the castle, Edward will always be hers. She cradles his head above her heart and tells him she loves him more now than before and she cant wait for tonight until Edward goes to Angela again to inrtrease the chances of having the golden heir of forks. To make sure and be on the safe side, she actually will try to convince Edward to hav 3-4 sons with Angela, so the Kingdom is saved and they can all live like a big happy family. Angela can stay there, and Edward couldnt thank her enough for giving him his sons, so he might reward her once in a while...wink:) He knows his wondeful wife will be very understanding.....afterall everything is for the benefit of Forks and its people....Long live the Queen of Forks.....to be continued...
ReplyDeleteSavage,
ReplyDeleteFirst I want to wish you a nice vaction.
I want to tell you that i have enjoyed every single of your stories there, and UC too which is wonderfull untill the last chapter, and I cant honestly imagine how i will go through the dread in the next one. I have some points that i feel like pulling out of my chest.
Bella is not suffering because of Aro and Jessica, yes they are bad, but Edward is the one who caused this situation. Yes he is.
Bella didnt ask to marry him, she didnt want to become the future queen of forks, she isnt responsible for the revenge edward wanted, she has been hurt and humiliated enough. I was mad when Edward told her " like with all other thinks I didnt think properly about it and all I could come with was the idea of a concubine". Well my dear, I think Edward should learn a bit from Aro who is a true king in my eyes. Aro knew that Edward wanted war, he made an army when Edward was busy brooding and yelling at his innocent wife. Aro won, and even then, he had a backup plan untill the complete destructon of forks. What did Edwdard do? took a concubine, and no matter how much you make him cry or be upset about it, it doesnt make it right. He faled big time and he doesnt deseve Bella. He is the one who should make the ultimate sacrifice, not Bella. and believe me, him sleeping with angela is not a sacrifice let alone the ultimate one. you say it was another time and people used to think differently than today. Sure my dear, but you are not writing this story for an audience of that time. You are writing this story in the 21st century. How do you honesly think we would take it? Furthermore this is a twilight inspired fic, you have to respect some limits. You say the story should be told as it is, but this is not a true story where you cannot play with the characters and events, this is a fic story and to be fair to us you should say, the story should be told the way I want it to...then its ok, i cant have any power over that. Im not trying to change you mind, but just know there are not a few who think this way, there are a lot. I can handle all kind of angst, you can do with this characters everything but this, and I would take it, everything but this. I want to trust you and hang in there...but i dont know, I and the others might continue to read, but just know the magic is gone....this will become another "whatever" story. If you go with what you eventually want to go, then im really curious to see how you will get out of this mess....because honestly, no sweet words or act of bravery on Bella's part, or strong love declarations would make it right. im glad this is not on Edward's POV, otherwise reading would be unbearable and you might have a collective puke all over the place. Thats it!
continued......Edward angela second night.....
ReplyDeleteEdward enters the room where Angela is waiting for him naked in the center of the huge bed. He is taken in surprise and feels his cock give an appreciative nod. Damn, it wasnt supposed to be like that, he wasnt supposed to get turned on by another woamn but his sweet innocent beautiful wife. No God, no, dont let angela's perfect tits make me want to fuck her little sweet pussy. He approached the bed and positions himself between her legs, the faster he goes the better it is, the sooner he will finish. He thrusts with a sharp motion and they both moan loudly. He starts pushing in and out none to gentle. God, Angela is meeting his every thrust eagerly. This makes everything complicated. She starts moaning "my lord, please please dont stop, oh it feels so good..ahhhhh". Edward feels so turned on that he forgets about the guilt eating him alive. This is too good to avoid, and since angela is doing such a great service to the Kindom, he thinks to give her some pleasure...well deserved. Well he never will tell this to his naive beautiful wife, she needn't know about this. yes he promissed to not give angela pleasure, but it is impossible, he is a man afterall, and a fine sexy one...he cant blame angela for wanting to experience the first sexual pleasure with a man. So he grabs her nipple with one hand and rubs her clit with the other, that takes Angela over the edge, she comes so hard that milks Edward's cock so tightly than he cant contain himself anomore. He pours indise of her, filling her like he never thought he would another woman. They collaps all spent and covered in sweat and cum. Once they come back to earth angela asks if they can do it again, and since it is still early in the night Edward agrees. They end up doing it 5 times that night untill Edward is dry and have no more seed left in him. Angela falls asleep not wanting to clean herself of the cum which possibly contains the initiation of the great future child king. Edward crowls off the bed exchausted, enters the room Bella is waiting with a smile on her beautiful face. He feels really bad about it, she is so beautiful and trusting and innocent. He breaks down on his knees asking forgiveness and tellingn her how much he loves her and only her regardless of what is happening on the other side of the castle. Bella crushes him to her heart and leads him to the bathing place where she has prepared everything to wash him from Angela's juices and smell. This goes on and on every night, sometimes during the day too, where Edward and Angela cant wait until the night falls...afterall who blames them...they all are performing their duty and showing their loyalty to the Kngdom. After sometime Edward feels better about this and angela starts glowing. Who said he would enjoy sex with another woman other than his beautiful sweet Bella? That, he didn predict, like anything else he wast able to predict. But hey he is Edward, the future king of forks, he will think of something immediately, no matter what the cost. Now if his sexy angela could make a baby for his sweet, lovely wife. This would be his gift to her and in the eyes of God would forget the sin of actually enjoying sex with angela. If angela doesnt get pregnant in the next 6 months, he might just beg Aro and Carlise for an extention..perhaps another 6 months? Looks good and promissing.
A note to the above annon...
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on so much of what you wrote. On one hand, Savage is trying to write a historically correct story. But on the other hand, she has taken liberties or creative license with other parts of the story that throw it out of the realm of historical. If we wanted to read historical fiction, we'd go to our local library or Barnes and Noble where historical fiction abounds.
If Savage does actually write Edward having sex with Angela for the sake of the Kingdom, and I mean where he really, really does do it, not just tries to make everyone think he did it in order to buy sometime, then there is no way to fix or save the remainder of the story. The damage is done. You can't go back and erase the deed.
Like one author of another story said to the affect of...there will be an HEA, but it might not be your idea of an HEA. I think it will however, remain true to my characters...
Bullshit, imho, she totally destroyed her story with unnecessary heartfail and angst. the story never recovered. The author had to have been living in the world of FanFic to ever believe her own statement.
I get that Savage is trying to get us to step outside of ourselves and what we would want if it were us in that position. She wants us to believe that this IS Bella's decision and that it IS something that she is willing to suffer.
But even IF Savage could get us to think along those lines, why would she ever entertain the thought that we would like it or continue to subject ourselves to it?
I honestly don't think my brain is wired that way...
to the annon storyteller a couple of reviews up -
ReplyDeletemaybe this is where polygamy began? buy one queen, get a concubine for free.
edward finds that being with angela is too good to let go after she becomes pregnant. and well, she is bella's best friend after all. and what is every man's fantasy? two girls one guy, am i right? so future king ewdard, calls in his construction crew and instructs them to build a larger bed in his bedroom. now if he can only find a way to fill bella in on his little plan...
to be continued...
@ anon above....
ReplyDeleteActally I dont see Edward having a problem of convincing the Queen of Forks have a threesome with the King of Forks and his little concubine/mother of his kids/sexy lover/almost sister Angela. If the King of Forks wants to be happy, the Queen should comlpy without question. Gotta keep the Kindom strong and a happy Edward means a strong Edward and safe, prosperous Kingdom. Angela is like her sister, the idea shouldnt be that apalling, better her than anybody else (that Jessica bitch btw....shudders). Anything for the happiness of Forks and its King. Isabella is a real Queen, in so many levels...maybe the only challenge is angela in bed, she might be better than the Queen of Forks?....hmmmmmm. well one way to find out. She has to sleep in the same bed as angela and edward to find out...Who can make edward orgasm harder? well welcome to Forks, where the incest isnt considered adultry but instead is a service provided by both the Queen and her sister concubine to keep a happy King and Kindom.......
Savage,
ReplyDeleteWow, you have truly ruined this story for us. I honestly didn't think it was possible. We all loved it so much and I personally was ready to put it in my top 5 all time favorites with the likes of EP and Wide Awake, and now that will never happen. No matter what you do from here on out, you've ruined these characters and our perception of them. Even if you do what EVERYONE is hoping for and not have Edward become an adulterer, you've put the idea in our heads. You had him actually agree to do it. You've had Bella become a meek, simple-minded drone that will do whatever she is told. But I honestly don't think you are going to stop it from happening, are you? I think you're planning on having Edward have sex with Angela. Won't that be a joy for us all to read? *heavy sarcasm* Of course we won't have to read what actually happens when they're in bed together which kind of makes it worse actually. Wait, I'm sure we'll get a wonderful scene of Edward coming to Bella crying about having to pound the hell out of Angela and she'll be so loving and understanding. I'm sure she'll tell him how proud of him she is and how brave he's being. It honestly makes me physically ill to think about it.
to the annon storyteller a couple of reviews up -
ReplyDeletemaybe this is where polygamy began? buy one queen, get a concubine for free.
edward finds that being with angela is too good to let go after she becomes pregnant. and well, she is bella's best friend after all. and what is every man's fantasy? two girls one guy, am i right? so future king ewdard, calls in his construction crew and instructs them to build a larger bed in his bedroom. now if he can only find a way to fill bella in on his little plan...
to be continued...
wow! yeah, that almost works doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteyou know..."forks" can be taken several different ways here...think about it...
1) bella will take the high road, edward will take the low road.
2) when you come to a fork in the road, which way do you go?
3) when a woman spreads her legs, what does it look like?
4) forks can be used as weapons.
5) you can use forks for the appetizer, the entree and the dessert...a multipurpose tool.
6) you can live in forks, where the kingdom is being ruled by "TEA".
FUCKING HELL.
Well, sure we like a Real story over an epic love story to read. Ok, but there is a problem. For 23 chapters Savage built this EPIC love story, the uniqe love story never seen or heared in the entire kindom of forks and elsewhere. A love story which could not rival any Kindom, powere or wealth on earth. And because Edward says he was left with no other choices, does that mean is true? its been 2 years since since he got back from war, he knew it would come to this eventually, what did he do besides praying to God to get bella pregnant? And he knew about the concubine months and months ago. Will Bella take it like a champ when the man she loves comes back from screwing the other woman and tell Edward how proud she is that he is putting all his efforts in creating his heir? Hell no, if this is how its gonna be, then im out, not because of angst/heartbreak, but because of stupidity. As for the analogy..people have sex without love all the time...well hon Id love to see your face when the man you loove tells you...look..im screwing those chicks aside, but you have nothing to worry bcause it is just sex....lol, that was the most stupis analogy on earth. Edward might not be the villan here, not intentionally, but he has to pay for his actions. He married bella out of revenge, not love at first, he wanted revenge, he got it, now HE has to pay not Bella. As for Angela, well actually she will be like his real wife in bed now, she will get laid as much as Bela was getting laid before when she wnted to get pregnant. Edward has a limited period of time to get her pregnant, so yeah he will probably sleep with her...a lot. and honestly, I prefer Bella steps down for awhile and stop being a ghost wife just to show off in court and profess her devotion to the Kingdom. she doesnt have to endure the heartbreak of knowing her husband will fuck and pour his seed until helast rop is left to get another woman pregnant, even it is angela....I would say, it is worse being Angela. I would prefer a faceless, random woman, that Bella wouldnt even know who she was. As for Edward, it is not a torture to sleep with Angela, believe me. First time would be not easy, but he likes her and will be gentle with her, eventually will care for her in bed, add the time factor, which wont be just 1 day or week (Angela is drinking the tea too). Id rather he was forced to sleep with somebody he hated than Angela, who eventually and logically he shoud form an attachement and if she gives him a child more so.
ReplyDeleteAlicia (i dont have a google acc and im too lazy to sigh up)
I could not agree more with your post. We're all messed up, but I do not remember signing a waiver to get mindfucked by this story. If I had any idea this was were she would take it, I would have saved myself the heart fail and not even started it. I bet there are MANY out there who would have done the same. Thank you for your post and making me smile. Glad there is something on here that did. Being told if you don't like it then you can stop reading, did not make me feel very nice or appreciated to tell you the truth. It actually reminded me a lot of SM punishing her fans when Midnight Sun was leaked. Diva like behavior is not very becoming.
ReplyDeleteSavage,
ReplyDeleteI think a comparison might be in order for you to understand why all of your readers are so upset and devastated by what you're doing.
Imagine a small child. Every day for 24 days you give this child a sweet and delicious ice cream cone. The child loves the treat and begins to look forward to having it every day. Then on let's say the 25th day before you hand the child the ice cream you slap them across the face. Then you tell the child that if they want the cone they're going to have to take the slap to the face first. If they don't want the slap, they can just stop eating the sweet and delicious treat. It's not your fault at all if the child refuses the treat or is upset when they receive the slap.
Do you understand? I can't imagine someone being so cruel to so many people who have loved and supported you. I understand you write for your enjoyment, but I guarantee you're the only one enjoying it at this point.
Wow, I must say the amount of drama this has created is impressive. I just wanted to say savage that I hope you take this negativity all w/ a grain of salt, as you have said before its a testament to your amazing skills that people are so up in arms over this new possible plot development. Be true to your writing, be proud of your unique story lines and remember there are so many of us that love your work and support your writing! that being said please let us have faith that you will make it all right in the end, he he he!! :)
ReplyDeletesavage,
ReplyDeleteyou wrote in your "sensationalism" comment that you don't write nice. i think we all get that, and have dealt with it, loved it or hated it but willingly suffered through it. yes, we obviously follow you from story to story. having said that though, none of your other non "nice" stories consisted of or made a threat to the "fideity" of edward and bella's relationship. i know you said that you weren't going to change your outline or story and since none of us are mind readers, we can't even really ask that you do that sine we don't know what you have planned. i just ask that you don't seriously underestimate your readers. i will be deliriously happy if i've underestimated you.
you also commented that you write for our enjoyment and entertainment, as well as your own. but i have to say that i think this time around you're probably the only one who is finding this enjoyable and entertaining.
@Anonymous above..
ReplyDeleteNot only I totally agree with you, but I think it would be ridiculous and so unrealistic for Savage to have Edward having sex (yes having sex like in orgasming and enjoying it) with Angela again and again and again and not getting comfortable doing that? Edward will fuck Angela like there is no tomorrow now that she is drinking the tea too. He wont touch Bella anymore (and honestly i dont know how Bella wont flinch at his touch), his dick would fall off if he took 2 women so much every day and night. Of course he will make Angela comfy too, he cant take her unless she is ready for that, meaning Edward will get it up for her by being aroused and Angela will get wet by him arousing her too. Are you going to convince us that Edward will be going at it by putting a pillow above angelas face and making a hole in her underware? Or maybe Bella will show so much "strength" again that she will take it as a team project and have a threesome helping her husband get it up for few times untill he gets comfy with Angela. I totally agree Edward is no way ready to be a king. He has known about this for months and he didnt know what to do about it? And yes, why didnt Carlise take a concubine too and secure more than 1 hair? No, because he didnt want to hurt Esme, thats what he told Bella. Savage, I would say, since you went for this, you just might go through with it to the end, but please be realistic and dont sugarcoat it, no undying love between Edward and Bella, because thats not true anymore. I would vomit if I read lines like: "No matter what they forced on us, we would belong together forver" or "he would be always mine, even if he touched another"...huh, sure sure, because you know, that is not true..NOT a little bit. Maybe you wanted to go to a place no other ff writer had gone before, I dont know, but im sure you are enjoying this too much, and obviously you dont care for your readers. No, its not nice to ask your readers to stop reading after they read more than half of this story. If you dont care about what we think or ask, then dont publish your stories in the internet, I say us like in 90% of readers in his case not 10%. No offence taken, nothing personal, just you took this too far.
Dear Savage:
ReplyDeleteYour fabulous story, UNEXPECTED CIRCUMSTANCES, has the potential to inspire excitement and hope
in your readers that true wedded love is really possible in this cruel world. Bella did remember, in Chapter 25, that Princess Jessica continually criticized her as Edward's wife, saying she was not fit to be the spouse of a future king. Perhaps this is ONE cause of her TEMPORARY INFERTILITY? Maybe the current angst in the story will cause Edward to totally reject Angela and return to Bella, reassuring her in a new way of his true love and devotion, thus improving their marital intimacy, and allowing Bella to get pregnant.
I'm just saying.
I will have to say after reading the latest chapter, you have tried to smooth things over very nicely. Bella's ok she's taking one for the team. But I am saddened because whatever the time, whatever the case, Edward and Bella have a real marriage,and real love, and some how some way that needs to stay sound, no adultery.(no matter the royal cause) It ruins it. I really feel for Bella here, she is being played the fool by so many, and that shouldn't be. You can put whatever kind of name on it, (like nobility and heart of a royal, but let Carlisle sleep with another and see how noble Esme is). Why should Aro, Jessica, Jane, Tanya,Carlisle, Esme, or even Edward for that matter win out with what they want how are their lives any more important than Bella's. Sure she is a servant girl, but she is still a human being, a human being worth not being humiliated and taken advantage of, especially by any of them. I hope you have some clever turn about here or I am going to be eternally sad. :'( My heart still hurts. On a lighter note, have a nice, relaxing vacation. Can't wait to see what the vaca state of mind will bring back to all of us in your stories.
ReplyDeleteI'm in the "I think I'm gonna wait till a few more chapters of UC are posted"-camp. I don’t think I can take the angst-levels based on your post here! I love your characters and how they and their relationship has evolved…the heartfail just “hurts”, ‘ya know?
ReplyDeleteI made the mistake of reading 'Emancipation Proclamation' as Khar was writing/posting it when it got into the heavy, “def-con angst levels” . I'm "embarrassed" to say that as it delved into the DEEP ANGST/separation chapters, I just couldn't take it: and I have not finished it YET! It's on my list of stuff to do when I'm camping out over-night for the Breaking Dawn Panel or in the long lines at Comic-Con later this month!
Have a great trip! Enjoy the cruise, your family, the relaxation and fun of it all!
honestly I've already resigned myself to the fact that Edward does indeed screw Angela. No it is not a child making act as people have been so delicately putting it, or love-making or just sticking it in and being done with it. ...ITS SCREWING SOMEONE THAT'S NOT YOUR WIFE.
ReplyDeleteand what makes me sick to my stomach is that Edward has to be physically aroused by Angela and have sex with her, while Bella cries in the other room/other side of the castle. because isn't that what we'd rather have? Bella's best friend and husband together? I mean its ok! its NOT Jessica, its Angela, Bella loves her so there's nothing wrong with that, right Savage? so we should be happy at least.
I can just picture the next chapter, Edward has sex with Angela, and no one is able to look each other in the eye. Bella tries to be the "strong one" and confront the situation (but in reality she looks even more pathetic than she actually is) while Edward drops a line like "I was thinking of you the whole time, my love, it meant NOTHING" and then Bella says she still loves him while she cleans him of Angela's stench. oh and then Bella and Angela have some girl talk and compare their experiences while giggling over Edward's manhood. yeah that sounds like a good time.
or maybe its months after said abomination, and Angela is pregnant with Edward's child and Bella's rubbing her belly like the "strong" woman she is! good for her! this truly is a happily ever after! "hey this isn't my kid but its Edward's so that's ok"
newsflash honey: your husband had sex with your best friend and SHE'S giving him the kid you can't have because you keep drinking that damn tea that harpy you trust gives you! (I've never trusted Jane even since she was introduced, and I'm sure everyone else feels the same way)
and now because Angela drank that freaking tea, she possibly won't even get pregnant the first time. so she lost her virginity to her best friend's husband for nothing. and will probably have to have sex with him again, cause you know, "it's a sacrifice they have to make for their country" so go Edward! and betray your wife again! its ok! Bella said so.
so thank you savage. really thank you from the bottom of my heart, for completely ruining a story that was actually going somewhere and was gaining POSITIVE attention. now you're/we're left a huge pile of shit, that will remain a huge pile of shit until the end, if you decide to make Edward have sex with Angela.
and I'm sure you will because in the end, THIS is what you wanted. you wanted people to react and that's what you got. so congratulations! ...I hope you enjoyed your vacation :)