7.24.2011

Relief from Heat and Heartache

It finally rained, and the temperature dropped a bit.  It's still so humid you need a snorkel to walk out the front door, but the heat's diminished, at least.

The last UC chapter seems to have relaxed a lot of people.  It can't rain all the time, or so I have heard. :)  If you are still holding off, I'd suggest waiting another chapter or two before jumping back in, though.  Still loving all the theories people write in their reviews, and questions about Edward's "little swimmers."  LOL!  Love it.  

Hope everyone has had a wonderful weekend!

64 comments:

  1. I read the last update and although I loved it I think I'm going to wait a few chapters until something is done about that blasted TEA! before I start reading it again, I love the angst but the tea makes me sooo mad, I want to hit my computer screen every time somebody drinks it!

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  2. I still have hope that Bella will have Edwards baby! I think Jane and the tea still have to go!! Just love your stories - every single one of them! Thanks for writing!  Gina!

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  3. Kaitlin McCormickJuly 24, 2011 at 7:39 PM

    I am on the tea bandwagon too.

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  4. You got rain?  Please send it my way.  We did see clouds today and it's only in the 90's.  It's the tea.  I just wonder how you are gonna get Jane away for a bit so they can figure it out.

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  5. Actually Savage im not relaxed at all. It is one thing for Edward to be forced to lie with Angela and another thing to be so weak and ingnore his wife for 5 month without any regard about how she feels and what she thinks when he doesnt get back to her after being with angela and not even let her know where he is at all. Iafter they talked in chap 26 I thought they would connect somehow and go through it together. The sex with angela wasnt brought up and it was implied to be clinical as the first time right? also im glad he didnt have to go to her every day, but in the required days, maybe when she was ovulating. still it would have been reassuring for us to have Edward tell his wife that he didnt touch or connect with Angela sexually, like no pleasure for them at all. I understand him being sick and sulking the first time, but man up damn it. actually bella is taking it like a man in this case.Ok Isabella reacted only to beg edward to get back to her and express her profound love for him no matter what or who he does??????? not trying to be negative but for me their relationship is different now, and it sux. You could at least showed some intimacy between them w/o the hole love making process. It seems 1 step forward, 2 steps backward, at least please tell me if this angela fucking is going to stop next chapter....please?

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  6. I may not have liked chapter 26, but I was looking forward to chapter 27 and have no problem with how Edward is handling things in this chapter. As long as there is no more mention of how Edward was with Angela. The next chapters should be fine for me to handle. I hope it's not Jane's tea though. that's a little predicable. But it's your story. :)

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  7. Actually i want to see Edward come very close to losing Bella. Then maybe he wont ignore her and neglect her. So sad. Will it ever come a time he will redem himself and make it up to her? He owes her his life, his Kingdom, his sanity.

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  8. But dont you wonder as he had to be with Angela a lot if it became more comfy or just a bit pleasurable? If he didnt get pleasure from his wife........I know im being a big baby but need reassurance...please Savy?

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  9. That's why Angela makes the comment about him not even speaking to her.  Nothing has change from their first encounter.

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  10. I will see what I can do. :)

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  11. I really like the progress here.  You're seeing a very different set of people than the characters we were initially introduced to and I love that!  Of course it's hard to see them so miserable and broken but I haven't had a lot of stories bring out those kind of emotions in me.  This new chapter did calm my frazzled nerves a bit because we're seeing a little more of that backbone Bella's been struggling with lately and it's obvious that things are really going to get crazy before this is over. All I can say is "let's do this" and buckle in for the ride.  Also.... QUIT DRINKING THE FREAKING TEA!! :D 

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  12. There's a tea bandwagon...???!!!

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  13. Right here!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELH0ivexKA

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  14. She's here to avenge the TEA!

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  15. Hertbreaking, but hoping all will be worthit in the end. Aro will have his head chopped. Jessica will be forces to be a slave and treated like shit, the way she treted her people. Carlise ...dunno??? Esme will be a gannie, i know:P Jane rots in hell. figure the damn tea you idiots!

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  16. IDK about this. I was literally sick with heartbreak the last few chapters and was hoping this one had some relief. I am not seeing it. I am still completely confused with Bella being so accepting of everything going on. Edward has only been with Angela and not even speaking to Bella let alone touching her? Guilt is one thing but for Bella to still accept? Everyone is so obsessed with Jane, the tea, and Aro. Am I the only one dying over E and B's relationship falling apart??
     

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  17. No you are not. It is sickening to see they have lost what they once worked so hard to built. But maybe with time?...now that he is intimate with Bella again, I hope he does not go to Angela anymore. It will be like going back to qsuare 1.

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  18. So funny you say that ("it can't rain all the time"), because I watched The Crow last night!  Weird... 

    Love that movie...sigh... I went to Seattle last month and saw Brandon Lee's grave...so sad...

    Wow am I off topic...lol...

    Anyhoo...thanks for the update! 

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  19. To further my thoughts, Im happy he wasnt intimate with both of them in the same time, but i was totally bummed by him pulling away from Bella. a little rejection on Bella's side would be more understanding. Seems lke Edward failed her 2ice. JMO  anyway. Ill shut up now..lol

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  20. Totally get what your saying. That is bothering me more than anything else. I am not seeing how anyone could be relaxed about this chapter according to the post. I am seeing it as getting worse and I think I am pretty much at my level of acceptable angst. Not sure if I have it me to continue. I mean, to reject your wife like that for months on end? I find it worse then when he had to tell her it was his duty to have sex with another woman. No idea how they will ever get past this realistically.

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  21. Nope, I dont wonder about that from how he was with her the first time and how much he hates it. I dont even care if he got pleasure from it, because he probably did a little. I mean how could he not.

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  22. I was just thinking (far fetched and totally out there ), about what if Bella turned out to be Carlisle daughter. Yeah, that would make Edward and Bella cousins. But they did that all the time and Edward already slept with his other cousins.

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  23. Well yeah, it's what most people are already thinking. Not saying it's not a good plot, but it would be shocking if it wasn't it.

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  24. I like that, Jessica being forced to be a slave and treated like shit. I hope Tanya too. But I also think they should be forced to be whores and Aro should have to be burned alive. Having his head chopped off is too good for him and he deserves far worse.

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  25. no.. you are not the only one dying over their relationship...  he ignores her...she puts up with it.,... no one seems to be worried....esme pisses me off the most...how can she make bella step up to the plate as a royal and accept angela.but just lets edward be an ass and not step up to the plate...
    we now know that aro probably did have something to do with his parents death but still can't figure out why....did they or his dad hurt someone in his family????

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  26. if there is im not it. i dont trust jane and her bloody tea its not right but what would her motive be they saved her. 

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  27. Savage - I was wondering if you could answer a few questions, if it won't give any plot points away. 
      I wanted to ask about Bella's reaction to things in this chapter. I 'm glad she finally confronted him, but I'm wondering about the decision not to have it happen sooner. I guess I'm surprised that she wasn't more hurt about him pushing her away.  I kind of think of this as Edward having his "New Moon" moment, and I know things aren't going to parallel canon exactly, but Bella certainly could have been more devastated by this. He could have still be trying to conceive with Bella, but he abandoned that completely. For that reason alone, I thought she would have tried harder to talk to him. I can see her trying to be understanding in the beginning, but this went on for months!
      Also, I wanted to ask about the decision not to provide more detail about their reunion. I guess I miss their intimacy with one another; things don't feel the same, and I know that they're not.  But I was wondering if you had a deliberate reason for glossing over their physical reunion and not showing more of them renewing their emotional connection.  It's hard to know the true state of their relationship without more details.
      I'm not asking these things to criticize the story at all.  I guess I just felt kind of a sense of loss (and foreboding of course) at the end of this chapter and I'm trying to understand it better.  Thanks!

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  28. to credorosa

    your comment here mirrored my reivew...i can't stand how edward has been treating bella - and apparently for the past 5 months!  his behavior, by ignoring his wife, has made the whole "having sex with another woman" thing look like a walk in the park.   how could he continue to be so self centered? 



    so he thinks he's not worthy of her?  he would have been worthy of her if he had been a man about it and taken care of his wife when she needed him...she needed reassurance that he still loved, wanted and needed her.  his actions have made him unworthy in my eyes.

    i think it's a little disconcerting how savage seemed to have glossed over bella's pain.  she allows bella to think of it, but there's no real feeling behind it.  bella had to have been dying inside but we never really saw her suffering.  bella's apathetic demeanor eventually gave way to anger in her outburst to edward even it felt a little watered down.

    i'm wondering if we'll ever get any satisfaction from this story...

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  29. i failed to mention in my last comment, but i do love savage's stories and i'm hanging on!

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  30. You know I held off from reviewing because after looking at Savage's writing above I thought...is it just me that's pissed at Edward for how he's treated Bella annd Bella's reaction to it!  I think I was more upset with this chapter because at least the last chapter Edward was considering Bella' feelings and how he didn't want to do this to her and she didn't deserve it blah blah blah.  But to pull away from her like he did was disgracful!  Someone should have said something to him like Esme holy shit!  Bella should actually been bed ridden with all the grief she should have had but she just held it in the the good little royale. I really don't understand the practically non-reaction to it all I am going to go back and read it again because when she said they were finally alone in their rooms I actually thought that they had sex but from what some people have written it seems maybe I assumed that?  I think the way Edward has been treating Bella just makes it that much worse than just trying to impregnate Angela.  He totally closed off from her and I think there should have been more of a reaction from Bella.  Yes she did raise her voice a little but...Savage I know you said you were trying to give Bella more feelings or show more of her feeling but, I'm sorry I really didn't see it.  Can you help me with that please?

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  31. What was more heartbreaking: Bella was almost convinced Edward didnt want her anymore and he preferred spending more time with Angela instead, for months. Yes she stood up to Edward but it wasnt out of strength, it was out of desperation for acceptance and feel of rejection because she thinks she failed him in every aspect. Basically Bella told Edward she loves him no matter what he has to do, no matter how and where he screwes up she will take the hit. WTF? What kind of strength is this? She is so scared he might not love her anymore and abandon her. We should have had a glimpse of their reunion, i dont mean the sex, but some intimacy and showing edward longing for her, reassuring her. She deserves some comfort. Everybody does nothing but hurt and abandon her. I hope Edward makes it up to her big time. I would like to move on from this Angela angst, it has been dragging too long, can something else happen?

    On another note:
    Savage i read "judging books" today. Woman, please tell me you plan on continuing the story. I loved it.

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  32. well he has to cum so there's the pleasure no?

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  33. That's it in a nutshell. And with Savage there is no happy medium, you either love her stories or hate them. I've never met anyone who hasn;t had a strong opinion one way or another. I will say this though, this is by far the most diffilcult angst she has ever written. Hide and Drink was a walk in the park compared to UC.

    And Savage loves her unredeemable Edward's, but this one, he -s bordering on loathesome. He seems to be single handedly destroying any ability to rebuild with Bella. It's a shame, because no one but Bella would put up with this nonsense!!! I believe I read Savage said to wait a a chapter or two, I think I may do that because I don't want to be bald with the frustration!!!

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  34. Lol, well yeah. he has to feel something to get it out of the system, but I dont think it is considered pleasurable in his state of mind. Brain commands everything, if his brains is shut down during the act, I dont consider it pleasure. People ejaculate while sleeping sometimes, totally not being conscient about it. It sux i know, but i have come to think about it as sacrifice not pleasure. Thats how i sleep well at night.lol

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  35. After reading it a second time I still don't have a great feeling but I guess she did explain her feelings to him but I think she waited way too long and only did it when he acted  that way towards his sister.  I think also we do need their intimacy because if the Angela thing was going on but he was still "with" Bella it would be worth her suffering

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  36. We aren't going to get the boot here are we? I like this so much better than the thread There you can really get jumped and you get forced opinions shoved at you. It feels much safer here!

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  37. The thread has calmed down a lot.  As long as you are respectful here I'm okay with any comments.

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  38. But if his brain is shut down during the act, then he can't get to that point and when you have a wet dream, aren't you dreaming and thinking of something or someone that turns you on?

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  39. Hi Savage - Just wondering; I posted a comment yesterday to ask you a couple of questions, but you haven't replied.  I know you're busy but you did reply to Credorosa last night when she asked if it was OK to post comments here. It could be that you missed my post, so I'm going to repeat it here so you don't have to go looking for it.  It's OK if you can't answer them; just let me know please.

     Savage - I was wondering if you could answer a few questions, if it won't give any plot points away.
      I wanted to ask about Bella's reaction to things in this chapter. I 'm glad she finally confronted him, but I'm wondering about the decision not to have it happen sooner. I guess I'm surprised that she wasn't more hurt about him pushing her away.  I kind of think of this as Edward having his "New Moon" moment, and I know things aren't going to parallel canon exactly, but Bella certainly could have been more devastated by this. He could have still been trying to conceive with Bella, but he abandoned that completely. For that reason alone, I thought she would have tried harder to talk to him. I can see her trying to be understanding in the beginning, but this went on for months!
      Also, I wanted to ask about the decision not to provide more detail about their reunion. I guess I miss their intimacy with one another; things don't feel the same, and I know that they're not.  But I was wondering if you had a deliberate reason for glossing over their physical reunion and not showing more of them renewing their emotional connection.  It's hard to know the true state of their relationship without more details.
      I'm not asking these things to criticize the story at all.  I guess I just felt kind of a sense of loss (and foreboding of course) at the end of this chapter and I'm trying to understand it better.  Thanks!

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  40. Where are the Offside Updates?!
     
    Not sure if this is the right place to post, but I'm desperate.  i'm jonesing for a fix.
     
    Please update soon.
     
    Starting to get the shakes...

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  41. Savage and you guys,

    I read the last chapter again (mind you, at work...lol). I need some answers about a detail that escaped me before. Please read the paragraph below from chapter 27, this is after E/B sleep together after 5 months, but obviously it is not the morning after:

    "The morning was still very early when I opened my eyes, surprised to not
    find my husband lying next to me. Since the day Alice and Jasper had
    brought their daughter to visit us, he had been at my side almost
    constantly, and I had quickly grown accustomed to it again. It was
    strange to not have his warmth wrapped around me when I woke".

    Now Im confudes and need some answers:

    1. did E/B had sex or it was just hugging and reconecting? some people say they didnt
    2. Is Edward still going to angela on the required days and sleeping with Bella in the same time?
    3. Bella says since alice came to visit Edward had been constantly by her side, like all the time? Is it just a few days since alice came to visit and Edward has been with Bella only those days? But then, Edwards tells Aro that either Bella or angela could be with child as they speak,

    So, is this how they will spend the last month? switching between angela on required days and Bella the rest of the days? Not trying to be annoying or anything, I just need to be clear on things that happen. I hate to assume. you know assume = ass-u-me...lol

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  42. Hey there!  Sorry - not ignoring you, I just missed it. :)  Isabella is still very new to all of this, even though she's been in this position for a couple of years now.  She spent most of her life as a servant.  She has been taught (by fear of death) to never, ever question the actions of a royal.  Even Edward went off on her about that early on when she questioned him about his actions.  Not that she still fears Edward necessarily, but that kind of behavior doesn't just disappear due to a change of position.  She's also his wife, and supposed to abide by his rules/decisions.  She's hurt, but kept waiting for him to come around and assumed as soon as Angela was preggers, Edward would be able to relax again.  She didn't expect it to go on for so long, and every month thinks "well, next month it will be okay again."   Hope that makes sense. :)

    I do know what you mean about the reunion, and I may very well do it as an outtake or something someday.  Honestly, I decided to  minimize it because of time, and wanting to move the plot forward to get past the angsty bits.  It may not have been the right decision, but that's why.  I promise more intimate times (not necessarily sex) in the next chapter.

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  43. But Savage, Edward is her husband now, not just any royal, and she knows very well he will never harm her for whatever reason. I felt like she should have told him to do his duty as husband too, not just his duty for the Kingdom only...... for 5 months. Our little broken hearts needed that reunion. Hope you will do some outtakes from EPOV on chapters 24-27. I want to better understand what Edward is going through, whats in his mind when he goes to Angela as required, what he thinks about Bella, because even he pulled away form her, he still thinks about her..i hope. I dont neccessarily what to read sex between E/B, just want them (Edward) to restore the passon and longing for eachother.

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  44. Hang in there - there will be more of that in the next chapter. :)

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  45. I dont get an answer w/o revealing any plot points?...pretty please?

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  46. 1. The chapter doesn't say for sure, but it's implied they did.  Whatever you would prefer. :)
    2. Bella was told he was going to Angela on all the "scheduled" times.
    3. It was only a few days.

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  47. It's just hard to keep up, and this kind of message format is difficult for me to read/navigate.  And the email bit is a little wonky at the moment, which isn't helping.  :)

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  48. OMG, you are awsome. thanks a lot doll. Now if you can continue "judging books", I think i will get through the days since the ncext UC update...lol

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  49. JB may very well continue at some point, but not soon. :)

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  50. well i think it was implied that he brings himself to the orgasm point by touching himself, closing his eyes and thinking about Bella. He just doesnt shoot without purpose....lol. I suppose he just pushes inside her to spill the seed. I dont want to think he gets to stroke his love stick inside Angela....lol. thats how I want to believe it anyway. Savage can put all us out of our miserale selfs and reassure us....lol. now the only thing bugging me is if Edward goes to Angela the last month and gets back in Isabella's bed afterwards. I know im being annoying and it doesnt change anything...but still.........

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  51. Please, take your time, just I see lots of potential for that story to be amazing.

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  52. I forgot, "required" days, means when Angala ovulates? I need to know how often is that...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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  53.  Thanks for getting back to me and explaining this. Yes,that does make more sense to me; I hadn't been thinking of it that way.  It's easy to forget sometimes that this is not a modern woman, and she's been brought up a certain way.
    I didn't necessarily need a lemon in that chapter; I was just longing for a return of their emotional connection. I do want to get past the angsty bits believe me,so I understand your reasoning.  I'm glad there will be more intimacy between them in the next chapter. Thanks again.

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  54. In Unexpected Circumstances Chapter 21, Jane tells Bella the "tea" is made from
    boiled bark of a willow tree, and some ginger root.  On Google, a website on Herbal Birth Control lists Ginger Root as a menstrual promoter and contraceptive aid.  Could this be the cause of Bella's infertility?  If so, Bella needs to skip the tea!

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  55. The issue of Jane's herbal tea as a cause for Bella's infertility has been mentioned a lot. In UC Chapter 21, Bella asks Jane "what is in it?"  Jane replys: "Boiled bark from a willow tree, as well as some ginger root...."    
    I finally Googled "Willow bark" and "Ginger" as herbal contraceptives. It seems that GINGER has historically been used as a contraceptive!! Many websites have this same information.

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  56. The issue of Jane's herbal tea as a cause for Bella's infertility has been mentioned a lot. In UC Chapter 21, Bella asks Jane "what is in it?"  Jane replys: "Boiled bark from a willow tree, as well as some ginger root...."    
    I finally Googled "Willow bark" and "Ginger" as herbal contraceptives. It seems that GINGER has historically been used as a contraceptive!! Many websites have this same information.

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